let's see.

The election would have been Nov 2000 and inauguration in Feb 2001. That is 7 months to find something where the perps had been in-country for well over a year. They had to get training in flying those big boys - didn't need training in LANDING them but they needed to know how to fly them.

You can blame Bill for setting up the environment that ALLOWED 9/11 in the first place. When was the first bomb set against the towers? I will give you a hint - it was before Bill took office and thus his advisers would have had knowledge of their vulnerability. The policies at the airports were in place long before GWB took office and the bureaucrats apparently did not feel that they needed to be changed before 9/11. Fingers have been pointed regarding the failure of the various agencies to talk to each other but I wonder how much information left those agencies' offices when the Oval Office changed hands.

 

Bush told of hijack warning weeks before 9/11

Friday 9 April 2004

President Bush was given an intelligence briefing, entitled Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States just weeks before the September 11 attacks, it emerged yesterday.
Details of the August 6 briefing in 2001, which warned of terrorist preparations being made for hijackings on American soil, surfaced in testimony given by the US national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, to a commission of inquiry studying the September 11 attacks.
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J. Christopher Stevens, U.S. Ambassador To Libya, And 3 Embassy Staffers Killed In Attack On American Consulate In Benghazi
TRIPOLI, Libya - The U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans were killed in an attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi by protesters angry over a film that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad.
Ambassador Chris Stevens, 52, died as he and a group of embassy employees went to the consulate to try to evacuate staff as the building came under attack by a mob firing machine-guns and rocket-propelled grenades. He was the first U.S. ambassador to be killed in the line of duty since 1979.
President Barack Obama ordered increased security to protect American diplomatic personnel around world.
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"I strongly condemn the outrageous attack on our diplomatic facility in Benghazi," Obama said, adding the four Americans "exemplified America's commitment to freedom, justice, and partnership with nations and people around the globe."
Libya's interim president, Mohammed el-Megarif, apologized to the United States for the attack, which he described as "cowardly." Speaking to reporters, he offered his condolences on the death of the four Americans and vowed to bring the culprits to justice and maintain his country's close relations with the United States.
The three Americans killed with Stevens were security guards, he said.
"We extend our apology to America, the American people and the whole world," el-Megarif said.
The attack in Libya came hours after Egyptian protesters climbed the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, pulling down the American flag and temporarily replacing it with a black Islamic banner.
The brazen assaults - the first on U.S. diplomatic facilities in either country - underscored the lawlessness that has taken hold in both Egypt and Libya after revolutions ousted their autocratic secular regimes and upended the tightly controlled police state in both countries. Islamists, who were long repressed under the previous regimes, have emerged as a powerful force but new governments in both nations are struggling to achieve stability.
Egypt's police, a onetime hated force blamed for massive human rights abuses, have yet to fully take back the streets after Hosni Mubarak's ouster in February 2011.
On Tuesday, riot police stood by the embassy's walls but continued to allow protesters to climb them for several hours. The protesters, however, appeared to intentionally stick to certain limits: A few entered the embassy grounds to remove the flags and come back, but otherwise the chanting youth stayed on top of the walls without storming the compound or damaging property.
The uproar over the film also poses a new test for Egypt's new Islamist president, Mohammed Morsi, who has yet to condemn the riot outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo or say anything about the offending film. The protest was by mostly ultraconservative Islamists.
The film was produced by a California filmmaker who identifies himself as both American and Israeli, though Israeli officials said Wednesday they had no record of him as a citizen. The film was being promoted by an extreme anti-Muslim Egyptian Christian campaigner in the United States. Excerpts from the film dubbed into Arabic were posted on YouTube. The video depicts Muhammad as a fraud, a womanizer and a madman in an overtly ridiculing way, showing him having sex and calling for massacres.
Ultraconservative Islamists also were suspected of being behind the Benghazi attack. Advocating a strict interpretation of Islam, they have bulldozed Sufi shrines and mosques that house tombs in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, and other cities, including ancient sites dating back to 5,000 years ago.
Heavily armed, ultraconservative groups like Ansar al-Shariah, or Supporters of Shariah, have claimed responsibility for the attacks on the shrines, declaring Sufi practices as "heretical."
Libya has been also hit by a series of recent attacks that served as evidence of the deep and persistent security vacuum in the country after the fall of Moammar Gadhafi's regime, which was ousted by rebels backed by a NATO air campaign. Many Libyans believe that unrest in their country is in part the work of Gadhafi's loyalists who want to undermine efforts to rebuild the country after last year's ruinous civil war.
Stevens was a career diplomat who spoke Arabic and French and had already served two tours in Libya, including running the office in Benghazi during the revolt against Gadhafi. He was confirmed as ambassador to Libya by the Senate earlier this year.
Before Tuesday, five U.S. ambassadors had been killed in the line of duty, the last being Adolph Dubs in Afghanistan in 1979, according to the State Department historian's office.
The protests were sparked by an obscure, two-hour movie titled "Innocence of Muslims," which came to attention in Egypt after its trailer was dubbed into Arabic and posted on YouTube.
Sam Bacile, a 56-year-old California real estate developer, said he wrote, produced and directed the movie.
Bacile told The Associated Press he was an Israeli Jew and an American citizen.
Israeli officials said Wednesday they had not heard of Bacile and there was no record of him being a citizen. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not permitted to share personal information with the media.
Bacile said he had not anticipated such a furious reaction. Speaking by phone from an undisclosed location, Bacile, who went into hiding Tuesday, remained defiant, saying Islam is a cancer and that he intended his film to be a provocative political statement condemning the religion.
Bacile said he believes the movie will help his native land by exposing Islam's flaws to the world. "Islam is a cancer, period," he repeatedly said in a solemn, accented tone.
Israel, however, sought to distance itself from Bacile.
"It's obvious we'll have to be vigilant. Anything he did or said has nothing to do whatsoever with Israel. He may claim what he wants. This was not done with or for or through Israel." Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said on Wednesday.
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Michael reported from Cairo. Associated Press writers Matthew Lee in Washington and Joseph Federman in Jerusalem contributed to this report.

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i dont like these attacks. why is there no peace and love in the wolrd??

 

Y'know, distant lover -- this film was funded with the help of over 100 Jewish donors.

Very realpolitik...

 

The dumb arsed film maker, an Israeli/American deliberately provoked that mob, he knew he'd get some sort of violent reaction. So some of the blame for those deaths should also go to that prick.

 

And don't forget the Koran burning Pastor Terry Jones who already sparked violence once by burning a Koran and has been helping promote Sam Bacile's film,

*not_secure_link*religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/01/timeline-of-floridas-quran-burning-pastor/

 

Liberals, and I am liberal on economic and environmental issues, usually claim to be "First Amendment Absolutists." Nevertheless, these same liberals often give Islam a free pass. They tolerate behavior among Muslims they would condemn in Christians.

 

They were not protected by Marines or even US Military personnel. Thanks to George Bush and Dick Cheney those duties went to their buddies in the private contracting security business.

*not_secure_link*www.washingtonguardian.com/red-flags-embassy-security

 

I want to hit this again because its so obvious that its not only some Muslims that are hate filled its also some Christians, Jews, and of course the OP of this thread.

 

Can you post any evidence of Israeli rejoicing?

 

That is false equivalence. Christians and Jews do not behave this way to nearly the same extent that Muslims do.

Also, as the video points out, Mohammed really did engage in aggressive war. He really did kill men and take their wives. Someone making a similar video to defame Christianity could not say that of Jesus, St. Paul, or any of the saints mentioned in the New Testament.

 

Now this is par for the hate course.

*not_secure_link*www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheets/2012/09/12/cheat-sheet.html

 

S. Paul was a madman who cynically misused the teachings of Christ (such that they were) to lambast people, to attempt to control them, and to promote inequality. Have you read his letters?!

And hell, who started the Muslim/Christian rift?

 

Muslims did when they conquered the Holy Lands and tried to capture Constantinople, which was the capital of the Byzantine Empire.

 

All religious extremism causes sorrow, suffering and death, be it the Muslim fanatics or the bigoted idots of that Westboro Church.

No religious texts (of any denomination) encourage their followers to wage violent war against other human beings.

 

Absolutely. "Crazy" comes in many colors and flavors.

So, is that "an eye for an eye" stuff a biblical or a legal concept?

 

I think the muslims' are full of it, they need to learn how to take a joke.. look at south park, they will fuck with anyone

 

I agree. While I believe in the First Amendment, it doesn't give you the right to yell "Fire" in a crowded theater. Given that Israel says they have no record of a citizen name Sam Bacile people are now saying that's a pseudonym.

"I don't know that much about him. I met him, I spoke to him for an hour. He's not Israeli, no," Klein told Godlberg. "I can tell you this for sure, the State of Israel is not involved, Terry Jones (the radical Christian Quran-burning pastor) is not involved. His name is a pseudonym. All these Middle Eastern folks I work with have pseudonyms. I doubt he's Jewish. I would suspect this is a disinformation campaign."


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Everything he says about the production of the movie sounds like bullshit. "Sam Bacile" says he raised $5 Million from 100 Jews. That's $50K per Jew. Yeah, right. I think it's either some war profiteer that wants us to get involved in a war in the Middle East so that they'll get some of those no bid, cost plus contracts that were handed out like candy by Bush/Cheney. Another possibility, since "Sam Bacile" claims to be Israeli, is it was produced by some wacko far end times Christians that are trying to make Armageddon happen so they'll get raptured.

 

The Koran

I am copying the following passages from one of my copies of the Koran. This one was translated by Marmaduke Pickthall.

Surah IV,104 Relent not in pursuit of the enemy.

Surah VII, 4 How many a township have We destroyed! As a raid by night, or while they slept at noon. Our terror came unto them.

Surah VIII, 15 O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle, turn not your backs to them.

Surah IX, 5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.

Surah IX, 29 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah has forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the religion of truth.

Surah IX, 123 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him).

Surah XVII, 58 There is not a township but We shall destroy it ere the Day of Resurrection, or punish it with dire punishment. That is to set forth in the Book (of Our decrees).

Surah XXI, 6 Not a township believed of those which We destroyed.